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Old 03-23-2007, 05:47 AM
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Chris,
I'm curious as to your opinion, legalities & protocol say, for instance, scanning & posting a magazine article like a ride or something?

Reason being, we subscribe to both Texas Highways and Ride Texas. They have awesome information in their articles, but I'm not clear on if you can post that stuff generally, or maybe with some disclaimer as to where the article originated?

Thanks a million!
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I am no copyright lawyer however...we all take info from CNN, NYTimes etc...and post. Info is posted on a consistent basis. Whether that be from a mag or Internet info. If you wish to post info and / or news from a media source (which includes a magazine) post and credit source with URL/date/mag name etc. You are giving credit where credit is due. You are not claiming it to be your piece of work/opinion or otherwise. If in doubt, contact said mag...I am certain they will be happy for you to spread their word. With due credit.
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Good idea to call angelys. Its just soo much easier to scan & post good rides and things to do in this State. We use the hell out of those publications. Thanks.
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Fair use laws in the U.S. and the equivalent fair dealing laws in Canada do not allow for complete copying - even if you include an attribution for the original source. If you look at the news articles on the front page of Hawg Zone you will notice the first paragraph (or two) is posted with a link to the rest of the story, which is accepted as "fair" on both sides of the border. However, wholesale copying of material isn't.

IANAL, but I highly doubt posting scanned material from a dead tree publication would be construed as fair use either. Perhaps we should consult TFB on that.

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Very good idea Chris. And thanks for the info.
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IANAL, but I highly doubt posting scanned material from a dead tree publication would be construed as fair use either. Perhaps we should consult TFB on that.

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I say you consult the mag directly. If you want the info...talk to them directly...sorry TFB but hey...get it from the horses mouth. No middle man.

I have to disagree with you Speed. Barking up the wrong tree.
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The fair use/dealing principles that I quoted above is the law angelys. You can think whatever you want, but you're wrong. I am very well versed in Internet copyright issues and laws, which is why I commented on it, but deferred on the hard print. Get your facts straight.

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And, in case you weren't aware TFB is a patent attorney and is very familiar with the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act), which governs this topic in the U.S.. He also happens to be one of our legal counsel for the numbered company that owns Hawg Zone.

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And, in case you weren't aware TFB is a patent attorney and is very familiar with the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act), which governs this topic in the U.S.. He also happens to be one of our legal counsel for the numbered company that owns Hawg Zone.

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All fine. But why not make this to your benefit? Again TFB no harm no foul but what about contacting these mags of value and getting them on board here at hawg as sponsors rather then worrying about legalities.
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IANAL, but I highly doubt posting scanned material from a dead tree publication would be construed as fair use either. Perhaps we should consult TFB on that.

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On this subject SM, alst weekend TFB told me you have some issues here with Copyright infringement. He said he would talk to you about it, wasn't major stuff.
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