Rethink closing Gitmo obama

[FATboy05]

This will only be the beginning if obama closes Gitmo. That is by far the stupidist thing he's tried to do so far IMO

Freed Gitmo terrorist now network leaderposted at 9:05 am on January 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey


Yesterday, Barack Obama signed an order pledging to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay within in a year, but without offering a solution for the current detainees. That little detail takes on a little more significance after today’s report in the New York Times about the career of a released Gitmo inmate. After getting sprung from Gitmo, Said al-Shihri became a leader of the al-Qaeda network in Yemen:
The emergence of a former Guantánamo Bay detainee as the deputy leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch has underscored the potential complications in carrying out the executive order President Obama signed Thursday that the detention center be shut down within a year.
The militant, Said Ali al-Shihri, is suspected of involvement in a deadly bombing of the United States Embassy in Yemen’s capital, Sana, in September. He was released to Saudi Arabia in 2007 and passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists before resurfacing with Al Qaeda in Yemen.
His status was announced in an Internet statement by the militant group and was confirmed by an American counterterrorism official.
“They’re one and the same guy,” said the official, who insisted on anonymity because he was discussing an intelligence analysis. “He returned to Saudi Arabia in 2007, but his movements to Yemen remain unclear.”
The war on terror is no game. These people intend to kill us in large numbers, and unless we take that seriously, they will succeed. It’s not the same as using the exclusionary rule to return a burglar to the streets rather than offend tender sensibilities because someone filled out a warrant incorrectly. Al-Qaeda is not the Gambino crime family, and a law-enforcement approach will not defeat them — as the entire decade of the 1990s proved.
How did Shirhi get released? He told the Gitmo tribunals that he only traveled to Iran and Afghanistan to get carpets for his family’s store. The Pentagon’s dossier on Abu Sayyaf showed that he trained at a terrorist camp outside of Kabul, went to Iran to bring extremists into Afghanistan, and wanted to assassinate a writer on which a mullah had placed a fatwa for his writings. Shihri was fortunate that his review came at a time when the Bush administration was getting enormous pressure to reduce the number of inmates at Gitmo, and Shihri went into the Saudi rehab program. A year later, Shihri disappeared — and now he’s running the AQ network in Yemen.
Half of the remaining detainees come from Yemen, and would have to be returned to Yemen. The Yemenis have allowed terrorist suspects to break out of prison or have set them free on their own recognizance repeatedly. The Yemen branch of AQ has grown, and the addition of more than a hundred Gitmo detainees will only assist in that process.

[TexasRed]

Interesting .. considering the Shrub's administration cut al-Shihri loose :roll:

This will only be the beginning if obama closes Gitmo. That is by far the stupidist thing he's tried to do so far IMO

How quickly forgotton that McLAME was going to do the exact same thing?!?

We Should Close Guantanamo

McLame Wants to close Guantanamo

McCain: Close Guantanamo Bay

Would You Close Gitmo?

PELLEY: Would you close Guantanamo Bay?

MCCAIN: Yes. I would close Guantanamo Bay. And I would move those prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. And I would proceed with the tribunals.

PELLEY: Why? What's wrong with the way it was handled?

MCCAIN: Guantanamo Bay has become an image throughout the world which has hurt our reputation. Whether we deserve it or not, the reality is Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib have harmed our reputation in the world, thereby harming our ability to win the psychological part of the war against radical Islamic extremism.

McCain will close Gitmo

and on & fucking on ... LOL

[FATboy05]

What does any of that shit have to do with the fact we should keep Gitmo open for business????? Geeez

[TexasRed]

Just pointing out the obvious -- you said it "if obama closes Gitmo. That is by far the stupidist thing he's tried to do so far IMO"

When your guy McLame - planned on & constantly spoke to the media about closing the sumbitch as fast as he could also.

I guess I missed where its stupid for one person to do it, but perfectly acceptable for the other?

[FATboy05]

Originally Posted by TexasRed

Just pointing out the obvious -- you said it "if obama closes Gitmo. That is by far the stupidist thing he's tried to do so far IMO"

When your guy McLame - planned on & constantly spoke to the media about closing the sumbitch as fast as he could also.

I guess I missed where its stupid for one person to do it, but perfectly acceptable for the other?

That's your second mistake, "my guy" wasn't McLame. You really need to quit linking me to things you know nothing about. And yes I do Hate obama, and think anyone who thinks he's the savior is an idiot. Just look at the recent bailout crap for the latest example, and the Gitmo thing. There will be much more to come. What I do think is funny is some people trying to let folks think they are Conservatives, when really all their views are quite Liberal. Yes, that's you I'm refering to. You made this post personal, and from now on when you do this I will respond in kind. No more just ignoring your crap because your a Friend. Have a nice freaking day! I'm off to Shreveport :grin:

[ellymay]

LOL Ya'll kill me lol. Let's play nice in the sand box boys and girls lol.

[TexasRed]

Originally Posted by FATboy05

That's your second mistake, "my guy" wasn't McLame. You really need to quit linking me to things you know nothing about. And yes I do Hate obama, and think anyone who thinks he's the savior is an idiot. Just look at the recent bailout crap for the latest example, and the Gitmo thing. There will be much more to come. What I do think is funny is some people trying to let folks think they are Conservatives, when really all their views are quite Liberal. Yes, that's you I'm refering to. You made this post personal, and from now on when you do this I will respond in kind. No more just ignoring your crap because your a Friend. Have a nice freaking day! I'm off to Shreveport :grin:

EDITED .... nevermind

Dont worry .. You wont see another response from me. On anything. Ever.

[FATboy05]

Originally Posted by TexasRed

EDITED .... nevermind

Dont worry .. You wont see another response from me. On anything. Ever.

Sorry if my post might have been a bit edgy, your beatdown of me just hit me wrong this time. Don't quit responding, where's the fun in that :roll:
Besides.............you can't help being mean to me :grin: I'm a big target :lol:

[Mungo]

I'm somewhat torn on this one actually. And here's my reasoning.

I'm against closing Gitmo for the primary reason they need to finish unfinished business. We shouldn't be taking prisoners anyway. It's war and it's unconventional war. These guy get out and go right back to the front lines (so to speak). We should be going in and executing everyone on the spot that takes actions against the peace keeping force. (All be it, I can see the dangers in that too)

My gripe against Gitmo is none of these guys should be spending years behind bars down there. The trials should be an express lane to the death penalty.

And these humanity people gripe my ass. What more humane, keeping them imprisoned for years, or putting a .40cal through their demented heads?

Funny how liberals cry you can't let a little abuse of the system take out a system when talking about welfare, but executing one innocent person should take out a death penalty. The death penalty isn't punishment in itself - it's a deterrent to those still alive. Thats ALL!

Start lining these demented souls up and using them for target practice, and you'll see violence against our troops go down.

You can't fight a war half assed the way we have been doing so. Go in and get it over with. Dragging it out causes more pain and inhumanity.

I have no problem with the war. My only problem is, it should have been over thirty seconds after it began. Make the middle East a glass factory.

[Fubar]

""Prosecuting all detainees in federal courts raises many problems. Evidence gathered through military interrogation or from intelligence sources might be thrown out. Defendants would have the right to confront witnesses, meaning undercover CIA officers or terrorist turncoats might have to take the stand, jeopardizing their cover and revealing classified intelligence tactics.""

- Quote from Press clip.

Also where the hell are you going to put the men who were taken off the battlefield as suspected terrorists, and are now being released without trial??
Who wants them?? Maybe some of those people who want the base shut down should volunteer to take them into their homes, you know until they get back on their feet??? Yeah lets see how quickly that list of volunteer's fills up LOL

Listen War sucks, but you have to have faith in those who are running it, if they say these are the bad guys, then that's good enough for me.