The 2008 Presidential Election Forum

[FATboy05]

Here it is post away! let's see how y'all feel, who you think will be the best President, and how much you Love politicians :wink:
I know we here at Hawg Zone have enough respect for one another to keep this in the open Forum setting, so let's not resort to personally attacks, it's ok to argue, and disagree, but no flaming, or this will promptly get moved to the Pig Pen-Supporter Only Forum. Let em rip :lol:

[FATboy05]

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Barrack Obama Thread

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Obama is un-electable IMO, but not worried about him, or billary, because I have faith that enough Americans don't want their taxes raised, don't want to give driver's licenses to all the illegals, let them all vote, let them become citizens in front of all of the good people that have been trying for years, spending all their savings to LEGALLY become Americans, and give all of our resources the illegals anymore. A vote for any of the democrats will do just that! Each and every one of them has stated they will repeal the tax laws, thus raising taxes for all of us. They all want US to act, and be like European's, FUCK THEM! They are all tree-hugging, America is bad, and the rest of the world is good, ASSHOLES! They want all the ILLEGALS to become citizens because they will vote democratic.
Many of you seem to be looking for the "perfect" candidate in your eyes, or opinion, quite frankly there isn't any one person who can give each of us everything we want. Thus we have to choose from who is out there. What I want is a strong Armed Forces, and a President who isn't affraid to do what's in "America's" best interest with them. I want less Government in my everyday life, ALL democrats want Government to run everything, that way they will be totally in charge of their Socialist citizens. All of them want to raise our taxes, and will "in our best interest." Then they will have more of our money to spend on programs they think we need. Not to mention if billary, or barrack were to be elected all of US combined don't make enough $$$ to fund all the things they have promised to fund! I don't believe in the Global Warming craze, climates are cyclical, and changes have been happening since way before we got here, and I might add, will be going on long after we aren't here. Taxing all the energy Companies for Energy credits is ludicrous at best, and a scare tactic at worst, don't fall for it. There are more Scientist claiming there is no such thing as Global Warming, as there are claiming it is taking place, they just don't get the Media coverage. Besides do any of you believe that Big Business will pay any taxes, have they ever? No they will pass them on to US the consumer in the forms of higer prices, as always. I want the Borders sealed, and everytime we discover illegals, I want them deported now! I don't want Illegals coming here to have their kids, then claiming they have American citizenship rights now. Illegals are way out of hand here, and are about to take over, do any of you want to Dial 2 for English, I don't. We don't need universal health care mandated by the Federal Government. The best Health care will always be provided by the private sector, how can anyone want the Government that has failed in EVERY program they have ever gotten their hands on, to be in total charge of something as Important as your life.......... One area I do differ from Republicans is the right to life. I'm not qualified to take a stance on this since I am a Man, but I believe that in the early stages of a pregnancy, if the woman deems it best to not have a child, it should be her option, not the Federal Goverments. I will say on this topic, I would really hope that she would have the baby, and then place it up for adoption, but it's not mine, or anyone else's place to make her IMO
I think we should be "allowed" to retrieve, and refine "America's" oil, and resources that are abundant right here, thus letting US get away from Foriegn oil, and they're power over US. This would take quite awhile I'm affraid, but oil is the cheapest form of energy on the planet{at the moment}, and we shouldn't be dependant on ragheads when we have more than enough resources right here to supply US. I have never understood why America has chosen to buy foreign oil, and not use our own??? Tree-hugger's I guess, but the refining of oil/gas has become so modern, there would hardly be a trace left.
I also don't want a President with any trace of Muslim, and who doesn't respect America enough to cover his heart, and bow his uglyass head when the pledge is being said, I'm not swayed by good talkers, Bill was a great talker, and what did he ever actually say? or a President that cries in public, screams like a lunatic, decides how she feels about policy by what the latest polls say, and who stole all the Silver from the White House the last she resided there this rules out both obama, and billary for me...........

I don't know who I will Vote for, but being a Conservative in heart, I know a couple of folks I won't be voting for. All I ask for any of you thinking about voting, if you don't know about any of the candidates, please don't vote!

[mrpiff]

"All I ask for any of you thinking about voting, if you don't know about any of the candidates, please don't vote!"



I grew up near Chicago where I was taught to Vote Early and Vote Often! :lol:

[FATboy05]

Originally Posted by mrpiff

"All I ask for any of you thinking about voting, if you don't know about any of the candidates, please don't vote!"



I grew up near Chicago where I was taught to Vote Early and Vote Often! :lol:

:bellylaugh: :bellylaugh:

[Hellswraith]

Man that was one looooong ass paragraph to read Mike - :smile: ... But I did and in conclusion I dont think I know enough about the worlds issues to be qualified to vote . I really dont give a rats ass about it either to tell the truth . I dont have room in Dave's little world for all that political mumbo jumbo Bs thats why I never bothered worrying about it ..


So fuck it Im not voting again ..



:lol:

[GzrGldGeo]

Originally Posted by Hellswraith

Man that was one looooong ass paragraph to read Mike - :smile: ... But I did and in conclusion I dont think I know enough about the worlds issues to be qualified to vote . I really dont give a rats ass about it either to tell the truth . I dont have room in Dave's little world for all that political mumbo jumbo Bs thats why I never bothered worrying about it ..


So fuck it Im not voting again ..



:lol:

Look at the intelligence and the handle on the issues the current Administraion and Congress have Hells. You should not feel inadequate.

I agree with Piff. We live in the greatest or one of the greatest countries on earth. It is because of the people and the LEGAL citizens we are the greatest. Our leadership on both sides in this country are much more intersted in their personal power and wealth than the success of this country and its LEGAL citizens.

The LEGAL citizens need to use the ONLY power you may have which is voting. Until the chaos spills into the street that is your only option. When the jobs are ALL gone that is going to happen.

"A country that produces little to no exports and prints money and sells it to China can't survive."

------- George 2008

[FATboy05]

Dave, I'm sure you have something that you are passionate about, say Illegals, high taxes, how much trust you think you can put in a Candidate to do some of the things you are in favor of........If there is, take a bit of time, and see who most fits your needs, then roll the dice, and vote for them. The one thing I will say that I don't think anyone can argue with is, If you don't take the time to Vote, you have no right to complain about who you get :wink:



That's unless you are going to vote for a Liberal-Democrat-Socialist, then don't vote :bellylaugh:

[GzrGldGeo]

Well I was warming up to Barak and now he scares me.

There is absolutely no way I can vote for anyone that attends a Racist Church like Barak.

Check it out. He about had me until this shit.

Trinity United Church of Christ

I guess I am Ron Paul all the way now even if he runs Independent.

Is is obvious Ron Paul is the only one that cares about the Legal Citizens and their rights and freedoms in this country more than his own personal wealth and power.

I hope everyone researches how racist he is.

I also researched McCain. He is more of the same and I hate to say it, but may very well be dumber than Bush.

I guess I can understand why Hells would feel disenfranchised.

[GzrGldGeo]

There is only one candidate that understands or even cares about this presentation.

U.S. Financial Condition and Fiscal Future Briefing, Rotary Club of Birmingham, Alabama Jan 9, 2008

I am more behind Ron Paul now than ever. If people research and read as they indicate it will be obvious sooner or later that he is the only hope we have for freedom and economic survival.

[Fubar]

Originally Posted by Hellswraith

Man that was one looooong ass paragraph to read Mike - :smile: ... But I did and in conclusion I dont think I know enough about the worlds issues to be qualified to vote . I really dont give a rats ass about it either to tell the truth . I dont have room in Dave's little world for all that political mumbo jumbo Bs thats why I never bothered worrying about it ..


So fuck it Im not voting again ..



:lol:

He needs to learn the art of Bullet points