The 2008 Presidential Election Forum

[mrpiff]

Originally Posted by FATboy05

Fred Thompson

Initially I liked Fred, then I learned of his stance on gun control and completly dismissed him. Gun control legislation is not as important as the illegal immigration issue to me, but it ranks right up there.

Here is what I consider acceptable gun control :


Shooting in Butte , Montana

Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders Butte, Montana
November 5, 2006

Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.

It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.

Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news....



This election year I'm having trouble finding any candidate that I even agree with on just a couple issues :???:

[mrpiff]

Originally Posted by FATboy05

Nice work Piff! and I agree with you on that being the most important issue of our time, that and Terrorism

$338,300,000,000 will go a long ways toward fighting terrorism abroad while reducing the risk here at home with secured borders.

[TexasRed]

Originally Posted by mrpiff

In case you couldn't tell, it's my opinion that this is the single biggest issue that is detrimental to the health and well being of our country, and I can only hope that it's not too late already

I completely agree. Unfortunately I believe the enormous volume of quotes, votes & speeches I've read in the last 6mos prove they are all as equally weak on immigration. Some talk big, but most of their voting records reflect something "in it" for them.

And you can never forget that no matter who's ass lands in the chair when the music stops .. they have to fight that useless fucking congress to do anything. :evil:

[FATboy05]

Originally Posted by mrpiff

Initially I liked Fred, then I learned of his stance on gun control and completly dismissed him. Gun control legislation is not as important as the illegal immigration issue to me, but it ranks right up there.

Here is what I consider acceptable gun control :


Shooting in Butte , Montana

Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders Butte, Montana
November 5, 2006

Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.

It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.

Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news....



This election year I'm having trouble finding any candidate that I even agree with on just a couple issues :???:

I think you have been mis-informed Piff, where did you hear that? Fred is a staunch Supporter of the 2nd Amendment! Here is a bit of info for you on this issue:

From his website

http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx

Second Amendment
"I strongly support the Second Amendment of the Constitution, which protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms. Gun control is touted as a major crime-control measure. But some of the places with the strictest gun-control laws also have high violent-crime rates. Disarming law-abiding citizens does not prevent crime. The answer to violent crime is smart, effective, and aggressive law enforcement. The real effect of these gun-control measures is to place onerous restrictions on law-abiding citizens who use firearms for such legal activities as self-defense, sport-shooting, hunting, and collecting. I am committed to:

Strictly enforcing existing laws and severely punishing violent criminals.
Protecting the rights individual Americans enjoy under the Second Amendment"

Don't believe what you hear in the Liberal Media....................I still don't think he has much of a chance :sad: He is just himself, doesn't try to be someone he isn't. I've beeen watching him, along with the other's for quite awhile now, he seems real to me JMO

[FATboy05]

Originally Posted by TexasRed

And you can never forget that no matter who's ass lands in the chair when the music stops .. they have to fight that useless fucking congress to do anything. :evil:

They need to be replaced next :wink:
Any of them that don't fight to secrue our boarders, and keep this Country safe...........and those that want to take all of our hard earned $$$ and send it to nations that don't support U.S. If you aren't our Ally, you get $0 from US JMO

[FATboy05]

Not to mention if Fred were to get Elected, we would have the HOTTEST 1st Lady in decades, Jeri is Smokin HOT! :lol:

[FATboy05]

BTW Piff, if you look at all of the Democrat-Socialist Candidate platforms, they are all in favor of some sort of Legalization of Illegals, not acceptable to me!

[FATboy05]

I guess this is my very own thread, I seem to be the only one posting here lately :roll:
I heard today during an interview on the radio, that "my guy" may be calling it quits if South Carolina doesn't go well :sad: I sure hope he does good enough to stay!

Have you heard that billary...........
Says the Iraqi Goverment listens directly to her, and she is the reason the Troop surge has been working, they got the message after the 2007 Elections here??????
She Loves hip-hop..............this week :shock:

Of the three Democratic Candidates which one has ever had a job running a business, or Company?? You would be correct 0 and some want them in charge of our Fragile Economy???

Bush, aka America is selling Billions worth of smart bombs to the raghead saudi's, he went in front of the OPEC asswipes, asked them to help our economy out by producing more oil, they told him to F**K off, they are our Friends why?? There is enough oil in Anware{sp} to last America 30 years alone, why are we importing, and not producing??

The democrats are trying to pass through legislation adding another .40 per gallon tax on fuel....................for road repairs :evil: supposedly won't make it through

FYI,
If you want a free pocket Constitution, they are giving them away @ www.heritage.org

Of the remainning Republican Candidates I'd have to rate them thus:
Thompson
Mitt
Rudy
Paul
McCain & Huckabee are pretty much interchangeable

Where are Reagan, and Goldwater types when you really need them :sad:

[Hellswraith]

The ones that sound reasonable are not going to even get their parties nomination and the ones that are the leaders in their parties I dont think are fit to lead anything either .

Iv'e pretty much given up on all of them so as I said earlier Im NOT voting .. It's all a big ass kissing contest anyways and makes me sick just looking at them stand up their and lie their asses off just to collect a vote ..

Sorry but thats how I feel about the entire election process and I want no part of it ...

[FATboy05]

I totally understand Dave, there are a couple of scenarios that would keep me from voting too, and I have NEVER not voted :roll: