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Old 02-27-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default HELMET LAW IN ONTARIO

Originally posted on the HAMC Sudbury site:

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Here are the points of the ruling brought down by the Ontario Supreme Court in the Wayne Hayes helmet case. Again congratulations to Wayne and the law offices of Alan Gold.

1.The police erred in escalating a simple Highway Traffic Act charge into the Criminal charge of Obstruct Police.

2. The police in the future may demand you to surrender your helmet or take it off for inspection on the side of the road , you the rider don't have to be subjected to this kind of treatment anymore because of the Hayes case. The police can still issue you a ticket for improper helmet under the HTA , if they feel your helmet is improper , but you the rider doen't have to take off your helmet on the side of the road for any kind of inspection. They cannot seize or impound your helmet. If they have reason to suspect that the helmet is not compliant, they the police have two options : issue a ticket for improper helmet or they can issue you a written notice of compliance under sec.82(1) to bring in your helmet for an inspection on the date specified on the written notice.

We trust this information will be passed along to your members, and others in our community that may be affected by this ruling.

R. v. Hayes
129 of the Criminal Code - obstructing police officer - motorcyclist refusing to surrender his helmet to police officer for examination at roadside as required by s. 82(1) of the Highway Traffic Act - accused liable to conviction under s. 82(4) of the HTA, but s. 82(3) requiring that accused first be given written notice given of obligation to submit to examination - police not attempting to give written notice, but instead charging appellant under the Criminal Code with obstructing police - a refusal to submit the helmet for examination cannot, in these circumstances, amount to an attempt to obstruct the police - semble, where a statute creates a duty to co-operate with the police and provides a penalty for failure to do so, the failure cannot be elevated into a criminal offence - "If the appellant had interfered with the officer's attempt to issue written notice for a vehicle inspection, the offence of obstruct police could have been made out. However, since the officer did not attempt to enforce his power to inspect the helmet under s. 82(3) by issuing the written notice he was not entitled to invoke the far more serious offence of obstruct police....". R. v. Hayes (2003), 177 C.C.C. (3d) 543, 65 O.R. (3d) 787 (Ont. C.A.)

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FUCKING GREAT >......... BEANIE HERE WE GO
Now a question whats the charge for not wearing a helmut?
Does anyone now or should I ask a copper?
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I was cited in Mississauga for no lid in '86 or so. I had finished some work and had to do a test ride. I was so preoccupied with the test ride that I forgot my fuckin' helmet. It cost me $85 and I had to push it home. :evil:
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I wear a beanie Road Rash. I also carry a copy of that judgment with me. If they want my helmet they can make an appointment as per the law, or suck my balls, but they aren't getting me to take it off, or hand it over on the spot.

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I wear a beanie Road Rash. I also carry a copy of that judgment with me. If they want my helmet they can make an appointment as per the law, or suck my balls, but they aren't getting me to take it off, or hand it over on the spot.

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I wanna see them suck ur balls ...............
fuck Id even pay to see it.....
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I'm just gonna watch :shock:
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I wear a beanie Road Rash. I also carry a copy of that judgment with me. If they want my helmet they can make an appointment as per the law, or suck my balls, but they aren't getting me to take it off, or hand it over on the spot.

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RR asked me this a couple of weeks ago on this judgement, what is to stop the cop from stopping you 1 mile down the road and ticketing you again and again and again?
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..........right beside ya TexasRed.......

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I wanna see them suck ur balls ...............
fuck Id even pay to see it.....
There are two local O.P.P. that are lesbos and believe it, or not they are smoking hot. I choose them for the dirty deed. Lol.

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RR asked me this a couple of weeks ago on this judgement, what is to stop the cop from stopping you 1 mile down the road and ticketing you again and again and again?
That would fall under harassment and any good lawyer would fuck them over for doing that.

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